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	<title>Comments on: Nabakov presents &#8211; Deep Gumbo: Or, How I Dared The Big Easy To Blacken My Tongue While They Played Waltzing Matilda As I Was Offered A Boat Of Uncertain Length.</title>
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		<title>By: FDB</title>
		<link>http://www.progressivedinnerparty.net/2009/03/13/nabakov-presents-deep-gumbo-or-how-i-dared-the-big-easy-to-blacken-my-tongue-while-they-played-waltzing-matilda-as-i-was-offered-a-boat-of-uncertain-length/comment-page-1/#comment-1738</link>
		<dc:creator>FDB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 08:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nabs - top stuff mate.

A roux is just the flour and fat you fry at the start - though as DSO says, in Norlins they do the browning for long enough to elicit a &#039;sacre bleu&#039; from your average froggy. 

But the &#039;jus&#039; definitely refers to liquid from the last one, and ain&#039;t no roux gonna cut it no matter how blackened. 

My tip for avoiding the Gumbo Existential &lt;i&gt;Reductio ad Absurdum&lt;/i&gt; would be to make your first one with a stock of ham hocks with prawn heads and shells. Simmer ham hock (maybe some onion ends and carrot and celery tops) for an hour, then chuck in prawn parts for another 15 mins.

I guess eat this first one alone or with non-judgemental friends, then proceed with confidence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nabs &#8211; top stuff mate.</p>
<p>A roux is just the flour and fat you fry at the start &#8211; though as DSO says, in Norlins they do the browning for long enough to elicit a &#8216;sacre bleu&#8217; from your average froggy. </p>
<p>But the &#8216;jus&#8217; definitely refers to liquid from the last one, and ain&#8217;t no roux gonna cut it no matter how blackened. </p>
<p>My tip for avoiding the Gumbo Existential <i>Reductio ad Absurdum</i> would be to make your first one with a stock of ham hocks with prawn heads and shells. Simmer ham hock (maybe some onion ends and carrot and celery tops) for an hour, then chuck in prawn parts for another 15 mins.</p>
<p>I guess eat this first one alone or with non-judgemental friends, then proceed with confidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Fyodor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fyodor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 23:37:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Perhaps if the Devil Drink pulled his cork out and retransubsantiationed himself here to lead a thread here about what really makes a good bar good…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yah, though I&#039;m pretty sure TDD&#039;s a screw-top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Perhaps if the Devil Drink pulled his cork out and retransubsantiationed himself here to lead a thread here about what really makes a good bar good…</p></blockquote>
<p>Yah, though I&#8217;m pretty sure TDD&#8217;s a screw-top.</p>
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		<title>By: Nabakov</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nabakov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;And how did those Nawliners who’ve been making Gumbo for generations get started, anyway, since it’s an impossibility?&quot;

Good point Ms Smartypants. I shall return to Nawlins as soon as I can to seek an answer. Don&#039;t wait up.

&quot;if you have a proper roux.&quot;

Aha! Some of my notes start to make bit more sense now.  I thought they were just teasing me about roos at one point. But yes roux is probably what was really meant by my use of &#039;jus&#039;. Anyway it was never meant to be a proper recipe, more piratical &#039;guidelines&#039;.

 &quot;btw lagniappe means, loosely, a gift from your host, or a little something extra.&quot;

I&#039;m sure it does in many quarters. In Nawlins it appears to mean &quot;get that in you and then we&#039;ll get this party started.&quot;

And happy to dilate at length on drinkin&#039; in Nawlins but not sure it&#039;s worth a post in its own right. Perhaps if the Devil Drink pulled his cork out and retransubsantiationed himself here to lead a thread here about what really makes a good bar good...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And how did those Nawliners who’ve been making Gumbo for generations get started, anyway, since it’s an impossibility?&#8221;</p>
<p>Good point Ms Smartypants. I shall return to Nawlins as soon as I can to seek an answer. Don&#8217;t wait up.</p>
<p>&#8220;if you have a proper roux.&#8221;</p>
<p>Aha! Some of my notes start to make bit more sense now.  I thought they were just teasing me about roos at one point. But yes roux is probably what was really meant by my use of &#8216;jus&#8217;. Anyway it was never meant to be a proper recipe, more piratical &#8216;guidelines&#8217;.</p>
<p> &#8220;btw lagniappe means, loosely, a gift from your host, or a little something extra.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it does in many quarters. In Nawlins it appears to mean &#8220;get that in you and then we&#8217;ll get this party started.&#8221;</p>
<p>And happy to dilate at length on drinkin&#8217; in Nawlins but not sure it&#8217;s worth a post in its own right. Perhaps if the Devil Drink pulled his cork out and retransubsantiationed himself here to lead a thread here about what really makes a good bar good&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: worldpeace and a speedboat</title>
		<link>http://www.progressivedinnerparty.net/2009/03/13/nabakov-presents-deep-gumbo-or-how-i-dared-the-big-easy-to-blacken-my-tongue-while-they-played-waltzing-matilda-as-i-was-offered-a-boat-of-uncertain-length/comment-page-1/#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>worldpeace and a speedboat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you louche lush! that was a cracking post :-)

btw lagniappe means, loosely, a gift from your host, or a little something extra.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you louche lush! that was a cracking post :-)</p>
<p>btw lagniappe means, loosely, a gift from your host, or a little something extra.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamela Faye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pamela Faye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 12:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nabakov (can I call you Vlad?), thanks for bringing a little gumbo spice to my rather mundane Adeladie motel room. I was eating a bowl of microwaved scrambled eggs enhanced with a tin of corn kernels when I came across your post. Made me wish I had some hot sauce, a bit of jazz and a bottle of absinthe to wash it down with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nabakov (can I call you Vlad?), thanks for bringing a little gumbo spice to my rather mundane Adeladie motel room. I was eating a bowl of microwaved scrambled eggs enhanced with a tin of corn kernels when I came across your post. Made me wish I had some hot sauce, a bit of jazz and a bottle of absinthe to wash it down with.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Sister Outlaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Sister Outlaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 11:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Totally agree okra works in gumbo, so yumbarama and enjoy the First Gumbo conundrum. I think you can start a gumbo if you have a proper roux. This is not what we know from Francophilic cookery. Roux in France is of course flour cooked in sufficient butter to make a tasty paste, either buerre blanc or buerre noisette, depending on the extent of browning (noisette meaning nutty, of course). 

Roux in Nawlins is an astounding thing which &lt;em&gt;starts&lt;/em&gt; with butter and flour but ends with a black oily substance best stored in nuclear bunkers. Additions include file powder and other things that help along the heat Nabs suffered. Why anyone ever thought it was food is beyond me. Just one of the mysteries of Louisiana.

Funny, just now watching Bones [goes to New Orleans so we can include forensic stuff and voodoo tricks]. Gives much less a sense of the city than Nabs did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree okra works in gumbo, so yumbarama and enjoy the First Gumbo conundrum. I think you can start a gumbo if you have a proper roux. This is not what we know from Francophilic cookery. Roux in France is of course flour cooked in sufficient butter to make a tasty paste, either buerre blanc or buerre noisette, depending on the extent of browning (noisette meaning nutty, of course). </p>
<p>Roux in Nawlins is an astounding thing which <em>starts</em> with butter and flour but ends with a black oily substance best stored in nuclear bunkers. Additions include file powder and other things that help along the heat Nabs suffered. Why anyone ever thought it was food is beyond me. Just one of the mysteries of Louisiana.</p>
<p>Funny, just now watching Bones [goes to New Orleans so we can include forensic stuff and voodoo tricks]. Gives much less a sense of the city than Nabs did.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fear not the okra, Helen - &lt;a href=&quot;http://crazybrave.net/2006/11/13/okra-without-sliminess/#comments&quot; rel=&quot;external&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;all is revealed.&lt;/a&gt;

As for the more profound question of The First Gumbo, I&#039;m lost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fear not the okra, Helen &#8211; <a href="http://crazybrave.net/2006/11/13/okra-without-sliminess/#comments" rel="external" rel="nofollow">all is revealed.</a></p>
<p>As for the more profound question of The First Gumbo, I&#8217;m lost.</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was absolutely a great read. Good stuff Nabs. 

I did Nawlins in &#039;96. Highlight was when I was involved in a live performance of a Zimbabwean, Ghanian, Chinese, German and Australian all walk into a bar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was absolutely a great read. Good stuff Nabs. </p>
<p>I did Nawlins in &#8217;96. Highlight was when I was involved in a live performance of a Zimbabwean, Ghanian, Chinese, German and Australian all walk into a bar.</p>
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